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Jose Ramirez
Cleveland Indians, 2013–2025
45.1
Score, No. 285 all-time
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Ramirez leads on both counts: 50.7 wins added to 23.7 over a career, and 39.6 to 23.0 across his seven best seasons.
Jose Ramirez and Shane Bieber are still playing, so their numbers will keep moving.
third base
Cleveland Indians, 2013–2025
45.1
Score, No. 285 all-time
starting pitcher
Cleveland Indians, 2018–2025
23.3
Score, No. 1239 all-time
Wins added is how many extra games a player’s teams won because they had him and not a replacement-level player, the kind of fill-in any team can find. In one season, 2 is a solid regular, 5 is an All-Star and 8 or more is an MVP-level year. Score is the average of the career total and the best seven seasons.
| Jose Ramirez | Shane Bieber | |
|---|---|---|
| Ratings | ||
| 45.1(better) | Score | 23.3 |
| 50.7(better) | Wins added, career | 23.7 |
| 39.6(better) | Wins added, best 7 seasons | 23.0 |
| 285(better) | All-time rank | 1,239 |
| 13 | Seasons | 8 |
The dot marks the better number in each row. A hitter and a pitcher don’t share traditional stats, so this comparison uses the ratings only.